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I’d like to request that readers post a comment on this thread. Â A very unscientific poll of sorts. Â You can post your name or post anonymously if you like. Â Please reply to the following:
What is the breed of your horse?
What do you use your horse for?
What drugs, topicals, treatments, injections or medical interventions has your horse received, ever?
I’ll assume you’re from North America unless you tell me otherwise.
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I hope to show that all horses from all walks of life, in general, routinely receive treatments that would render those horses unacceptable to enter the human food chain. Â Drugs that would NEVER be allowed to be administered to a cow, pig, sheep, goat or poultry ARE given to horses.
I’ll look up the drugs and let you all know if they are acceptable or not to be in the human food chain and the duration for it to be out of their systems, if it’s known (many are not).
randomslate 
I have sport ponies. They get dewormed with Ivermectin and other dewormers on a regular basis, get bute when they hurt, antibiotics when they need them, and all the regular vaccines annually. My mare has had Banamine a couple of times, too.
Well, we have three horses. One is a QH (24 years), one TB (17 years) and one breed unknown although we suspect Standardbred…he is well into his 30’s. We are recreational riders for the most part, although two are enjoying their full or sem-retirement status. Their home is here until the end. And by that I mean, euthanasia and burial. Here.
As far as drugs go….let me think. Dewormer, phenylbutozone, banamine, epinephrine, prednisone, dexamethasone, clenbuterol, pergolide (for our Cushings boy) and annual vaccinations. These have been administered on an as needed basis to mainain their good health. There are likely more.
I am in eastern Canada.
I have 6 horses
They are mainly pleasure mounts/ lightly shown in hunters.
I have 2 horses on MSM. The rest are drug free. Bute is used on occasion if injury has happened. My horses are wormed every 3 months. The only topical cream is furacin.
I dont use DMSO as it scares me lol.
I would never sell any of my horses at auction as I am aware now of what can happen to them. I had to put my firrst horse down last year..she broke her fetlock in a fall and she was 26. My father in law told me to call a couple guys in a local paper to get her picked up. The wanted to know if she could walk and that was the only thing they asked me.(not what drugs she had taken in the past 6 months.) I could never do this to my horse I had owned for 12 years and ggotten
You may want to look into Furacin:
CARCINOGENESIS: NITROFURAZONE, THE ACTIVE INGREDIENT OF FURAZONE OINTMENT HAS BEEN SHOWN TO PRODUCE MAMMARY TUMORS IN RATS AND OVARIAN TUMORS IN MICE. SOME PEOPLE MAY BE HYPERSENSITIVE TO THIS PRODUCT. EITHER WEAR GLOVES WHEN APPLYING, OR WASH HANDS AFTERWARDS.
KEEP AWAY FROM EXCESSIVE HEAT OR DIRECT SUNLIGHT
NOT FOR USE ON HORSES INTENDED FOR FOOD
FOR USE IN HORSES ONLY
KEEP OUT OF THE REACH OF CHILDREN
I personally don’t touch the stuff and don’t allow it in my barn
We have five horses. Each of which has received bute when sore or hurt and one receives on a daily basis. We also use MSM, yeast, and equine bee pollen on a regular basis throughout fall, winter and spring. Dex is administered as needed to one with heaves and banamine is used frequently as well. We keep banamine and bute on hand and they are used as “aspirin” is used in the house medicine cabinet. Our horses are pleasure horses (read, pets!) the youngest being 4 the eldest over 28.
I have a mare who recently was on MSM daily, is wormed several times per year (rotating brands of wormer). Bute was given after a stifle injection for 5 days and is given for injuries occasionally- as needed. Banamine over the years on other horses for colic. DMSO and furazone for swelling/injuries as needed. On Platinum Performance (GI) supplement daily and another on PAK daily (http://www.platinumperformance.com/equine/) Has been tranquilized 2ce this year (teeth floating, stifle injection). Much like people, horses are given regular medication as required 🙂
I have 2 Quarter horses. My mare is 27 now I bought her as a 3yr old. Along with routine deworming and vaccinations over the years she has had bute in the past to treat an injury. Topical antibiotics and a steroid ointment to treat an eye injury. I have used various drugs to control bouts of heaves, Dexamethasone, and now using an injectable steroid. I bought the gelding as a yearling he is 15 now. He requires banamine IV before vaccinations followed by oral bute for 4-5 days.
Both horses are sedated for dental work required.
I’ve had a wide range of horses over the years (with up to 35 on the farm at a time). The horses have been used for many purposes from pets to breeding to show horses. Routine medications include bute, banamine, sulpha drugs, penacillin (or other antibiotics both injectable and topical), furacin, DMSO, regumate, clenbuterol, prednisone, routine vaccinations, tranquilizers, various linaments, fly repellants, dewormers (strongid, ivermectn) and lots of other stuff I can’t think of at the moment. Not every horse got everything of course, and many got nothing more than routine vaccinations, but everyone got something at some time or another in their lives.
If horses were raised for meat and meat alone it could be managed safely, but horses who have been used for other purposes are nearly certain to have had medications administered throughout their lives. Horse meat sourced from personal riding horses or pets are not suitable for human consumption.
We have 2 horses right now, one is a standardbred and the other is a arab/pony, both are pets and ridden lightly. The vet comes regularly for check-ups and vaccines. The horses are dewormed every few months, and vaccinated/boostered annually. An injury occured last year where one of the horses required bute and antibiotics. As we live in deep country, the horses are on various linaments and fly repellents. Other medications are administered when necessary as there is never any thought of our horses entering the food chain.
I’m in the US. I have two horses – a Morgan gelding and a Quarter Horse/pony mare. The gelding is used for recreational riding, and the mare is a companion horse for him. They both are wormed with Ivermectin/Moxidectin when necessary – use fecal counts – they get all the recommended vaccinations annually from my vet including West Nile and rabies. Both have had bute during their lifetimes.
The gelding has had surgery under complete anesthesia and I have no idea what he was given. Both my horses would get other medications if my vet thought they were necessary. I have NO intention of either of them going for slaughter.
I have an OTTB, He is used for recreational riding and is learning to jump. I use Zimectrin and Panacur, he’s had Ompramzole for ulcers, while on the track I know from records he had Bute and Lasix. He’s had Ace and I use Fly spray and swat, he’s been vaccinated with 5 way. He had cryptorchid surgery and I do not know exactly what he was given during his hospital stay. He was sent home on antibiotics.
I have 3 quarter horses. Each are pleasure and trail horses. Beginning level dressage in one. Each receive routine wormers including panacur power pack, ivermectin and panacur. Each have had rounds of bute and banamine and ace in their lifetime. My 10 yr old dressage guy has developed arthritis in his coffin bone and gets bute, consequin and injections in his joint. Each receive supplements for hoof care and eat power whole oats daily and free choice Bermuda hay. I use all sorts of fly sprays and have even tried those drop on fly repellents until I worried about adverse liver problems I read about. Each have also had a round of antibiotics in their lifetime as well. Annual shots for west Nile as well as other routine vacs. I am in Oklahoma.
I have had numerous horses for various purposes over the years. I am down to four now. One receives omeprazole (Ulcergard) daily. Another receives Prevacox daily, and one receives Prascend (pergolide) daily. In addition, they are dewormed and vaccinated regularly. One has received cisplatin (chemotherapy drug), and they all are treated topically with Vectra 3D for insect control. Over the years they have received antibiotics, been sedated regularly for “floats”, and received phenylbutazone. One has had regumate, and dexamethasone. I’m sure there have been other drugs, but those are the ones that come to mind.
I have a Thoroughbred. He’s received vaccines, tetanus, de wormers, DMSO and bute while in my care. I can’t say what he had when he was on the track.
We have 30+ horses….Percheron, Thoroughbred, Quarterhorse and American Warmbloods. All receive Ivermectin de-wormer, when fecal samples indicate it is necessary (on average, once every 2-3 years), traveling horses get West Nile/5 Way combo every 6 months (3 horses), sold horses also receive WN/5W one month before shipping, the rest nothing. Have used banamine and bute on 2 horses over the past 20 years. I support humane horse slaughter. In California it is illegal to bury or burn and we have one tallow plant that takes horse, in Fresno, for the entire state…that is 8 hours south of us. We need to ensure that slaughter facilities are humane and provide options. The current situation is inhumane and unacceptable…IMHO.
As a side note…drug tests have been and are available at time of slaughter to detect presence of drugs. We’ve been using them in the beef industry for more than 40 years. If a carcass tests positive, it is rendered and does not enter the human or pet food chain. Similar tests would be in place under FDA inspected facilities.
Drug tests cost money and would slow down the line. They never used them before now, so why would I believe they’d start?
Who would pay for the rendering when such a high % of horses would fail? Almost all racehorses are given bute, for example. Most show and pleasure horses get bute at times in their life. Every horse I’ve ever owned has gotten all types of de-wormer. Many commonly get ACE. We all know the horses are getting the banned drugs, so what are the odds the plant would render 9 out 10 of the carcasses just to find one carcass clean enough to process into meat?
Please look at the long list of things they’d need to test for:
http://www.vetsforequinewelfare.org/prohibited-drugs.php
That’s a lot of different tests. Different drug metabolize different and slower in different parts of the body, so a simple blood test at time of killing may not be accurate for all of them.
Also keep in mind that if a rancher ships a bunch of cows loaded up on illegal drugs, there is a punishment for him. But you’re not going to stop horse owners from using prohibited drugs on their riding horses, are you? Or are you looking to ban access by riding/driving/show horse owners at all times, on the off chance one day in the future the horse *might* end up at slaughter? Are you proposing horse owners be burdened with the drug-administration euro-style Passport system? If you feel horses are definitely meat animals, are you proposing they be added to the federal NAIS system and the horse owners pay for chipping/eartags & registering every horse they own with the fed government? Do you realize if horses are added to NAIS, every time they leave the “registered premises” (your farm) for anything, even just a trail ride down the road, you’d have to file a form with the federal government – every single time.
Most every post on here I see horses which are receiving substances which are banned from use in ANY animal intended for human consumption. We don’t raise horses in this country for food as we do cattle, pigs, sheep, etc. As such we medicate differently. Those medications are banned because they are harmful to humans if ingested, up to and including death. We already know that medications are transmitted thru the meat as are diseases. Alligators contracting West Nile Virus from horse meat, Big Cat, ie lions an tigers in zoos with much greater rates of cancer from eating horse meat.
Slaughter does nothing but begat more horses being breed indiscriminately and dumped at auctions because they weren’t the right color etc.
Funchy – The list of drugs that are tested for in bovines is much larger than the list for equines that you shared…Yes, testing can be done and should be done. Let me be clear, when I refer to rendering, it is for fertilizer use only, not food for other than human consumption. Not to open a major “can of worms,” but I would ask, what is the real reason for the overuse of off-label and on-label drug use in horses? I can certainly understand using pain relievers and swelling reduction agents on horses that that have been: injured, post surgery or have a genetic abnormality (cushings, ring bone, etc.) that warrants treatment to insure that the horse is not suffering. However, I would offer that other uses indicate that a horse is being overused or misused and that the owner/trainer does not truly have the best interest of the horse in mind.
With respect to carcasses that test positive for drugs/vaccinations, yes, the seller/owner should be held accountable…period…the same as with bovines, ovines, porcines and poultry. Every substance has a withdrawal period. There is no reason that owners should not be held accountable for adhering to labeled recommendations.
In regards to NAIS, since the final rules have yet to come out, other than allowing states to determine what best works for them, your assessments on the requirements are premature, IMHO. Should horses be identified and require brand inspections, yes. Many of the western states still require this. Do we have to get health inspections, Coggins tests, etc already? Once again, yes. It is simply a matter of traceability…one for ownership, two for disease control. I think this is a very acceptable practice.
Jo-Claire – I would be very interested in seeing the study that shows that a carnivore (alligator in your statement) can contract a disease from a vaccination that was given to the animal it consumed. Both Fort Dodge’s and Merck’s products are killed virus vaccines, not live or modified live, thus making me doubt that the cause was from a vaccination.
Commonsense, the EU market is going away, Russia has banned all US meat because of the use of Ranctopamine… which by the way has been found in racing TB’s and other performance horses. China’s horse meat market is very small and is mainly handled by their own products from Mongolia. Mexico? Mexico slaughters their own horses in local plants for local consumption. Currently US horses are not eligible for shipment to the EU because we do not have a “passport” program in place and if the USDA were to apply it would take a couple of years to process.
Please provide me documentation that US horses currently going to Mexico and Canada for slaughter have been raised for food under food safety guidelines.
Also I’d like to know exactly what Grandin recommendations the plant in Montana is implementing.
Do you actually believe that EVERY carcass is tested for EVERY banned substance? And what about the long list of substances that have a mandatory SIX MONTH withdrawal period? The US has NO traceability system at all for horses because they are not food animals here. So, there is no way to know it ANY withdrawal times have been met, and there is no way to find out. Records of that type just don’t exist.
If every carcass was tested for every banned substance – forget about withdrawal periods for those meds that have them! – the slaughter plant could not stay in business. Period.
Bute was in some of that beef that was contaminated with horse meat in the EU, and it DID get into the food chain.
Do you not know that in the US, the Kill buyers regularly forge the documentation that they need – including Coggins tests? And, that the authorities know about it and do nothing? The horse meat trade has always relied on less than honest methods of acquiring horses – including theft – on incredibly cruel shipping methods with poorly maintained equipment that is a public safety issue.
And, the EU has already taken the US off the list of countries authorized to export horse meat to the EU, and, after July, they will stop accepting horses from any country that doesn’t have a traceability system equal to the passport system used in the EU. NO American horse can qualify under those standards.
As to drug overuse in horses other than race horses, that’s not the problem. I have a gelding that received some bute about six years ago for a sole bruise. Because there is NO withdrawal period for banned substances like bute, he is NOT acceptable under EU standards – and US standards as well – and he NEVER will be. If a banned substance is EVER used in a food animal, that animal is NEVER allowed into the human food chain. You get that? NEVER. We don’t overuse bute, but we do use it, and that’s all it takes.
You don’t own horses or you would know these things.
They only tested the fat tissue, which is not where the metabolites of substances given are stored. Bute is processed thru the liver and the metabolites are stored in the kidneys. I have two horses now, one has had bute, lasix, clenbeuterol and banamine, in addition to vaccinations, de-worming etc. Yes he’s an OTTB, the other, I have no clue what he has had, and that is the problem…. we do not track drug usage in horses in this country.
There is no way to humanely slaughter a horse, it wasn’t humane when we did it here, it’s not humane in Canada or Mexico in the EU approved plants and it won’t be humane here again.
There are options in California. After all, with the big factory farms, there’s got to be a legal way to get rid of large animal carcasses. You might want to talk to dairy or hog farmers for ideas.
Here is one list of disposal options from the Ca Dept of Ag
http://www.cdfa.ca.gov/ahfss/Animal_Health/Animal_Disposal_Guidelines.html
The HSUS published a big list of rendering and cremation horses specifically for horses. Please take a look.
http://www.humanesociety.org/animals/horses/facts/humane_horse_remains_disposal.html#California
You might also want to call your ag cooperative extension office to see what resources they suggest.
Respectfully, I’m from California, sit on the state animal health and welfare committee and am very familiar with the limited options that we have. The first link you sited is only for times when Emergency Declaration has been instated. The second link you sited needs to be updated, only three of those listed actually take horses, and two require that the body be delivered to them…an issue with all three being in the southern part of the state (>9 hrs driving time). The primary challenge is that horses are not considered livestock, rather companion animals, thus have a completely separate set of guide lines that actually fall under the authority of the CalEPA when it comes to disposing….using landfills, burying on private property and privately burning are all illegal.
Commons sense, I didn’t say it was from the vaccines… I said it was from eating the meat of horses which had West Nile Virus…..
North American horse are carriers of Trichonella…. something which was eradicated in US pork. People in France have become sick and it was traced back to north American horses, well most of those horses are US horses.
Temple Grandin has said horse slaughter won’t be humane in this country because people will not follow her recommendations. She made recommendations at the one and only Summit of the Horse two years ago and the potential slaughter plant investors dismissed her recommendations as too expensive. De Los Santos has not implemented her recommendations.
Horses are not cattle, there is no head restraint for cattle, a horses head sits back further than a cows.
But bottom line, food animals are raised for food, horses are not. The food chain is not a dumping ground for irresponsible breeders
Oh and Commonsense… the plants didn’t shut down until 2007. That’s not 30 years ago, that is only 6 years ago.
Jo-Claire – I apologize, I took the context of the conversation, being on residues, as your stating the cause of the infection.
The plant that is in design in Montana is based on Temple’s recommendations…at least as per my last conversation with them.
We shall agree to disagree on the purpose of horses. My position is that they were and still are dual purpose animals…for work and food. Our society has certainly impacted how horses are viewed, and thus, as they have never been a major part of the US diet, it is no wonder that there is such opposition to the idea. However, that does not eliminated the potential for the horse to have beneficial value at the end of their useful life.
Personally, if we could simply modify state regulations, to allow for more rendering facilities, that would take horses, it would be very advantageous. .
900 pages of USDA documents show that even when horses were slaughtered in US, it was not humane. There’s no such thing as humane horse slaughter. I don’t want my tax dollars diverted from USDA inspections of food that Americans do consume.
With all due respect, modern facilities can be humane, particularly through utilizing the knowledge and techniques of Temple Grandin. I have seen her management suggestions in practice, first hand and it is not the same situation as existed 30+ years ago. We may agree to disagree, and that is fine. I have close friends who feel the same as you do. I still respect them and we are still friends. 🙂
Commonsense, it really has nothing to do with how you view horses for food or not…please provide proof where the horses going to slaughter were raised for food. Per the USDA’s statements, every carcass would have to be tested for drug residues, which means the kidneys would have to be tested. Currently the banned substances are not allowed to be used in food animals, we use those drugs in our horses on a regular basis.
This year the EU’s new regs go into effect and the EU is the largest consumer of US horse meat, that market will disappear. China uses very little horse meat and they are adopting the EU’s regs. Russia has banned US meat because of ranctopamine.
Horse slaughter is about food production, it’s not about solving an “unwanted” horse situation.
Jo-Claire – There were many here in CA, NV, ID, WA, MT who raised horses for human consumption, drug free, up through the early 80’s. When the facilities began to close and various states made it illegal to even transport a horse with the destination being a slaughter floor, those horses (the mares) ended up going to Canada as part of the PMU programs. I will respectful submit again…I think people are abusing drugs in the horse industry…they are being used too often to mask/hide overuse and misuse….IMHO. Secondly, if we do not end up utilizing horses for consumption (human or animal), we desperately need an improved rendering infrastructure.
My earlier statement, regarding 30 years, was simply in reference to horses having a salvage value 30 years ago, when slaughter and rendering was legal and readily available. I would agree that many of the facilities back then were unacceptable in terms of treatment, but I also believe people can change, adapt and adopt newer and better techniques and practices today than were in place then.
The best predictor of future behavior is previous behavior. Two years ago Sue Wallis and the United Horsemen had their Summit of the Horse, Temple Grandin spoke there and went over the recommendations for what she would consider humane horse slaughter. The parties present, many interested in starting slaughter back up, stated they were too expensive. Please tell me what Temple Grandin,recommendations the Montana plant is implementing.
Currently over 900,000 horses die each year, either natural death, put to sleep etc… what do we do with those 900,000 carcasses? We are talking about 1% of the horses in this country currently going to slaughter. Those horses can be absorbed back into the system. 92.3% of those horses are young, sound, healthy horses which can be given second chances. The majority of horses going to slaughter are quarter horses, then TBs, the rest of breeds make up the remainder 30%. Of those the majority are sport performance horses and race horses. All of which have been medicated with banned substances. All it takes is one dose of bute or any of the banned substances to render that horse ineligible for slaughter. That is any animal, the reason being is they are banned.
Again, it is a demand driven business and the demand is going away. We do not have a passport system to track the medications in horses and we’re not going to. There is no market for the blood, because of the medications,
So again, please provide documentation the horses which have been going, are currently going and would go, are raised for food. Please tell me the Grandin recommendations the plant in Montana is incorporating. Where is the plant in Montana, because I would like for Dr. Lester Friedlander to speak with them about their planned efforts. Dr. Friedlander is a former USDA Vet and is very familiar with the way horse slaughter was conducted in this country and how it is currently done in Canada.
Jo-Claire – I’m very familiar with the Summit of the Horse. It is my understanding that Temple is working with/consulting with the Montana facility, from design of facilities, to the training of employees that handle the horses. If I remember correctly, the location is to be near Billings or just west, for ease of transporting.
In California, to be very frank, if the horses are in the north, they are headed to Canada, and if they are in the south, they are headed to Mexico. I do not know of another state that has such restrictions as CA, when it comes to disposing of horses.
You are correct that the European demand is diminishing, but the demand in China, Mexico and Russia are steady and in some cases growing, especially in China. Will we have a supply to make several facilities profitable, probably not. I would conservatively expect that US supply could be met with two, a northern and southern, possibly a third somewhere in the east.
And a recent report released by the USDA Inspector General cited many violations at several US slaughterhouse, including cruelty and gross contamination. The last thing we need to do is build more slaughter houses.
Im in the usa I have a ten walking horse who was a rescue she gets wormed and shots plus she will get bute when she hurts she has a bad back leg she is my soul and heart we ride once in a while but she is more of a pet and very spoiled at that
I have used both Bute and Banamine on my horses, along with Ivermectin and Pamoate dewormers.
Our two PET mustangs – both rescued as very young foals, four years apart – rarely ridden …. have received penicillin & bute, wormer @ once a year. Annie is seven years old; Spring is three.
Two “decorative” mustang geldings – 3-strikers purchased (not adopted) from BLM – have never been handled since they arrived last November (2011). Oldest is @ 23 years old, younger is maybe @ 18. Both received vaccines and wormers at roundup, August 2011. The older was lame at holding, but I don’t think he was ever treated, as they said he was completely incorrigible. His injury healed.
NONE of these horses will EVER be sold to slaughter.
Thank you for rescuing these mustangs and giving them a safe, forever home.
Bute Penecilian Sedation and Sulpha mix powder for horses cows sheep used for infections and staph germs
USA* Over a twenty year period with the same 2 horses,: Bute,Rompun,Wormers&various insect repellents containing,ivermectin pyrantel moxidectin benzimidazole,, piperonyl butoxide DI-n-propyl isocinchomeronate petroleum distillate,furacin/nitrofurazone,dmso & various liniments & poultices,annual vac’s, including rabies,sulfa bolus,penicillin and likely other medications & products I just don’t recall presently
Everyone of my horses had had all their annual shots, including WNV. They’ve each had every wormer on the market. They’ve had Bute (Phenylbutazone), Banamine, Penicillin, Uniprim, SMZ’s, DMSO (only a couple of them got the DSMO) Nitrofurazone for wounds. Gosh, I can’t even remember everything they’ve had over the years.
I work on a thoroughbred breeding farm and also cater to lay ups. We use a wide variety of dfferent medications such as dewormer, phenylbutozone, banamine, prednisone, dexamethasone, SMZ’s, Naxcel, Regumate, omeprazole, dormosedan, acepromizole and whatever else is prescribed by the vet as well as annual vaccinations.
I have six total 4 miniatures, one paint and Quarter horse the are one regular deworming program and vaccines .Have used Banamine, .phenylbutazone.tablets and Ace also have use dexamethasone ,dmso for colic and lameness issues.my horses are mainly rescues and elderly and one is cripples retired barrel racer.
We have 4 off track standarbreds one of whom is Cushing,so on pergolide,we have an Arab,also on pergolide.We also have an appy,a warm blood,a welsh and a mule.All vacc annually,dewormed regularly,all have been on bute at least once,used banamine as well and various other things prescribed by vet
I have two horses currently. One a 28-year old retired barrel racing QH and the other a 14-year old trail and barrel racing APHA horse. Both are routinely vaccinated, wormed, and have numerous topicals applied and are fly sprayed daily in the summer; the paint had received ixosuphrine every other day for 3 years and will continue to do so until he dies; they both get bute 3 feedings before and 3 feedings after each and every shoeing (which is every 6 weeks) along with daily ulcer-guard and supplements for coat condition, arthritis, feed-through fly control, concentrated garlic, and gastro support.
I have owned horses for 40 years and keep every one of them for their forever; but I can honestly admit that I’ve never owned one which hasn’t been administered, at a minimum, bute; I consider it horsey aspirin and most lived well into their 30’s!
Variety of breeds at our Horse Rescue: regular, drafts, mini, driving horses, riding horses, companion horses. I also own several drafts personally. They all get vaccinated and de-wormed regularly. As needed, some may get bute. If the vet needs to do a procedure and needed to tranq, they get tranq’d (example ACE). Over the years I’ve also had to give pergolide, antibiotics, nitrofurazone, marquis… most of what is on the “never use in slaughter horse” list
http://www.vetsforequinewelfare.org/prohibited-drugs.php
I have one horse now only, a mare, ASB, and she is young so doesn’t need any “maintenance” drugs administered to many older Dressage horses. She gets de-wormed regularly with Ivermectin; rotated with Pyrantel Paomate; and is fly sprayed liberally in summer with Repelex brand fly spray. She also recieves liberal amounts of hoof oils of various types, lately natural Pine tar, but sometimes others with Lanolin and various natural oils. She has received Banamine for a colic treatment once last summer. She had never had any bute or other pain killers but I’d use it if she needed it.
Oh, I forgot, she gets her seasonal immunizations for all the usual horse diseases as well as tetnus toxoid, rabies and West Nile virus.
My horse is on a regular deworming program ivermecton among others.. Bute for pain and antibiotics when required. As well as vaccine. DMSO has been used and if he ever required banamine.
I have 7 mares, senior TB, senior QH pony, senor Dutch Warmblood, TB, Paint, and 2 Percheron Cross. All are vaccinated regularly & wormed w/Ivermectin. I use antibioutics , Bute and Banamine as needed. I’m in CA.
I Have 19 Horses. they Are Wormed On A Rotational Basis With Various Wieners Every 8 Weeks. Terr Have Al Had banomine At Some Point In Their Lives As Well As Bute For Pain. I Keep Supplies On Hand For Emergencies. None Of My Horses Are Slaughter Eligible. I Use Them For Trail Riding And They Are Companion Animals, Not Livestock!
Oh, And I Forgot the vaccines. they Get Their Vaccines!
Down to 1 horse now (24 yrs. old) but all my horses over the years have had spring/fall shots, Banamine (when needed), bute (when needed), wormed every 3 months (rotation wormer), hocks injected when he was rodeo’d, now on Stop The Pain every day for arthritis.
9 horses, most rescued from one thing or another. Morgan, Arabians, Mustangs, quarter horse, quarter pony and mini pony. Mostly do horse training/rehab for re-homing, trail riding, team penning, horse camping, pony parties, lessons, but retired from making money with them. All have been vaccinated for West Nile, Eastern/Western Encephalitis (sp), Tetanaus, Potomoc Fever and whatever else is in the latest shots. De-wormers are Ivermection, pyrantel pomoate, other anthelcides/boticides. Also have used Banamine, Nitrofurozone, Vetricyn, Fly spray and pour on fly tx with pymethrins, most labeled “not for use in food animals”.
I have a Dutch Warmblood, 2 Thoroughbreds (both off track), and 2 POAs. They have all had: banamine, bute, vaccines, steroids (for allergic reactions), feed through insecticides for fly control, various deworming chemicals, plus all the stuff the TBs got at the track. They are also sprayed almost daily every summer with nasty insecticides that may or may not be absorbed through the skin.
I have 5 horses, (3 miniatures and 1 Quarter Horse and 1 Solid Paint.) All of them receive 5-way vaccines each year and are de-wormed regularly by rotating the drugs. I use Bute when necessary and various fly sprays. If the veterinarian is needed, he may also use a variety of drugs including antibiotics. I have also used anti-fungal and topical solutions for skin and foot care.
Two Morgan geldings, 1 shows, one retired show horse. At any point they have been given, phenylbutazone, banamine, ivermectin, fenbendazole, paryntal pamoate, dormosedan, xylaxine, butorphanol, celestone, vetalog, legend, adequan, as well as various “neutraceuticals” and supplements. My retired gelding is currently getting bute daily as well as ponazuril for EPM and will soon go on Oroquin 10.
I have an 11 yr old, quarter horse that I have had since he was 3. Although proficient in several disciplines, he is ridden for pleasure only. He is wormed on a regular basis. Has been given bute for soreness, has had banamine several times. Also receives vaccinations twice yearly.
Thank you all so much for your comments! I promise to compile the data although it will take some time. Continue to share so that we get more responses. The more data the better!
Breed is Tennessee walker, all 3 of them, for pleasure riding. Have received numerous drugs (both herbal and prescription) and treatments over the years: Bute, Chaste Tree Berry Powder (for cushings), prescription antibiotics (for infections to leg and uterus), dewormers regularly, herbal antibiotics, vaccinations, wound treatments for bites and scrapes, fly sprays, various topical treatments for aural plaques for one of them, Moody mare herbals. That’s what I can remember off the top of my head. Would need to go through old vet bills and journals though for a more comprehensive list.
Oh yes, and one has to be tranquilized for teeth floating.
I have 9 Morgans, one Welsh pony, one Hackney pony, and 3 mini donkeys. One of my Morgans (age 34) has Cushings so she is on Pergolide. All are wormed, generally with Ivermectin, get yearly 5-in-one shots plus WNV. I rarely use any fly sprays and they are on no other medications. They would never be sold for slaughter…. they live their lives here…they are family….. they rarely need their teeth done and are only sedated if necessary (rare).
Arab/cross Draft/cross & a mini phenylbutazone, banamine, ivermectin, and all the regular vaccines annually. These are pleasure horses, grew up showing professionally and I can say I have never owned a horse is my life that has not had all of the above drugs and then some..
1/2Saddlebred, Arab n QH
I use her for pleasure riding.
She’s had Bute several times in our 25 years together (she’s 34). Also fly spray and wormers.
Wow. What drugs have my horses had? Well. That’s a loaded question, for sure. I know my mare who has been with me for 30 years has had wormers, banamine, sedatives, bute, pergolide, various supplements, furuzon..(all state “not intended for horses used for human consumption”)…I have another mare who is thirty years old. She has been with me for 8 years. She is a reining horse, turned brood mare. I don’t know what she was given before she got to me. She has arthritis, but is spunky. I have given her bute, from time to time, banamine, wormers and supplements. She’s been sedated to have her teeth floated. My gelding has been with me for 9 years and since I’ve had him, he has had bute, banamine, wormers, supplements. I have a pony who has been with with me for a year…he’s been wormed, had supplements, furuzon..
…and I didn’t even mention their yearly vaccinations…West Nile, EWT’s
Right now I have 18 horses. All have received bute in their lives. A lot of them have been on a race track. Most here are not traceable for drugs received, as all are rescues. Here most have received a banned med, whether bute, banamine, ivermectin, furasol, or a ton of other medications that say clearly not for use in animals for human consumption. It is ridiculous and a criminal act of bio terrorism to allow American horses in the food chain here or abroad period.
Not to mention ALL are vaccinated here.
or tranquilizers often given to new rescues that have been abused in order to vet properly or have farrier care that is long over due. The list is endless and truly everyone with any common sense what so ever knows are horses meat is tainted, to include the pro side. The difference is we on the anti side care not only about the horse, but the consumer, where the pro cares truly only about their pocket book.
Three horses:
Belgian Draft X TB 23 y/o- semi-retired/pasture ornament/trail horse-
Currently: daily small dose of bute for arthritis, Quench- Lyte, cortaflex, MSM Supplement, Red-C. 4 x per year wormer- various types, yearly vaccinations including but not limited to: west nile, tetnus, rabies, EEE, Rhino, Strangles, Sedative for teeth floating
In the past: Banamine, DMSO, Furacin, Jacks Sweat and Tightner, Atravet, Antihistamine, has had nerve blocking for lameness checks
Dutch Warmblood X TB 6 y/o- Jumper
Currently: Dark Horse Supplement, Quench-Lyte, MSM Supplement, Rec-C, 4 x per year wormer- various types, yearly vaccinations including but not limited to: west nile, tetnus, rabies, EEE, Rhino, Strangles, Sedative for teeth floating
In the past: DMSO, Furacin, Banamine, Bute, Antihistamine, has has multiple sedations this year (twice for stitches, once for teeth)
OTTB- 3 y/0- Hunter/Jumper Prospect
Currently: 4 x per year wormer, yearly vaccinations including but not limited to: west nile, tetnus, rabies, EEE, Rhino, Strangles,
In the past (I know his breeder): DMSO, Furacin, Bute, Sedative
Silly me, I forgot to enter my own drug list! Vaccines, dewormers, fly sprays, bute, banamine, regumate, antibiotics, furazone.
While working with vets and at the track, every drug known to man. Some that you never, EVER would have suspected. Steroids, hormones, shakes…. Don’t get me started on joint injections.
Compiling the findings now. Look for the updated post!
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